Introduction:

[00:00:00] Dr. Adeola Oke: Are you like most busy people stressed and inundated with health advice? This overwhelm is not helping your health. You see, one day I woke up in severe pain. I and I could not walk. I was dragging myself around the house in my office chair with wheels. I tried Tylenol, the painting go away. I tried Motrin.

quality I don’t want you to learn the hard way like I did.

[00:00:22] The pain didn’t go away. I then remember that an 80 year old cardiologist had told me about turmeric. I rushed to the store and bought a turmeric supplement. After taking only one capsule, about one hour later, I was able to walk again, pain free. This Mara experience made me a firm believer in quality

[00:00:46] holistic remedies, I am Dr. Adeola Oke the body activator. That was me, a nurse, a pharmacist, and a public health professional. I didn’t know that I was suffering from inflammation despite all my years of education. Now I have been able to get to the root cause of my health challenges and I feel great and full of energy.

[00:01:09] I don’t want you to learn the hard way like I did, so I created the Wellness Surge Podcast to share simple actionable changes. That you can make to activate your body to heal naturally. Here we will have conversations about food, fitness, mental health, and all that is in between. Now let’s get started.

[00:01:33] Hello everybody. Welcome to the Wellness Search Podcast. My name is Dr Adeola Oke and today I have with me today. Kathleen Keller. Um, today we’re gonna be talking about how to manage stress easily through neurogenic tremor. Have you heard that before? Well, we’re gonna find out more. All righty. So let me introduce you to Kathleen Keller. Kathleen Keller is a teacher and a presenter.

[00:02:03] She has been teaching for 40 plus years and is an international teacher trainer. Ha. Her approachability, sense of humor and compassion have made her a much sought after. Wow, . All right. A multitude of factors such as work-related postures, repetitive habits, lifestyle, and chronic stress can negatively affect your overall health.

[00:02:32] You can say that again. I’m all about how can we reduce stress, right. Kathleen specializes in teaching people how to alleviate pervasive conditions that alter or reduce their ability to live without pain or stress. Her aim is to empower people to prevent age and work associated stiffness and injury, and to keep their bodies supple and pain free.

[00:02:59] Nice cat enables her clients to transform how they. Feel and inhabit their bodies. She helps create healthier and more freely moving human beings. That would be awesome. Yeah. All right. Kathleen was a teacher trainer overseas from 2002 to 2007, and then returned to Canada Calgary in 2008. So Kathleen. Originally, she lives in Calgary, Canada, so she’s been overseas teaching other people. Since then, she has conducted a private practice in Pilates, Self-Myofascial Release (SMR) and Tension & Trauma Release (TRE®). 

[00:03:44] She has worked solely in a clinical environment with-in Physiotherapy Clinics. Countless Pilates clients and students have trained with her. Over 2500 Health Professionals have learned her SMR techniques through her workshops. I’m excited to learn about it today. Yeah, so prior to moving overseas, she taught fitness, dance, and Pilates in Vancouver (Canada), from 1979-2002, where was also a professional dancer.

[00:04:22] Kat discovered TRE® in 2017 and Kat is gonna be enlightening us about TRE® today. She knew immediately that she simply must bring this powerful stress-release technique to her clients, friends, and family. Now more than ever, Kat believes that everyone should know how to do this simple yet- profound method, to calm down their central nervous system.

[00:04:52] All right, so from 2002 to 2007, like I said, she trained locals to become teachers in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia and Jakarta, Indonesia. How fun! At this time, Pilates was virtually unheard of in Southeast Asia. She introduced the first international level program of Pilates Teacher-Training & Self-Myofascial Release (SMR) techniques to these regions..

[00:05:16] Producing great teachers in Asia is the biggest accomplishment of her life and, and the one she’s most proud of. She gave a vocation to her apprentices that they could take anywhere. Her last overseas adventure in 2006 took her to teach teachers in regions of. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[00:05:42] She still keeps in contact with many of her students and is extremely pleased with all they have gone on to accomplish. So everybody, please welcome. Let’s welcome Ms. Katherine Keller to talk to us about how to manage stress easily. All right. Welcome. Cut, 

[00:06:00] Kathleen Keller: Oh, thank you so much. What a wonderful introduction.

[00:06:06] Yes, yes, yes. So we’re, I’d love to talk about TRE® today, and I know that most people haven’t heard about it. And the only reason I know about it is because one of my friends, when I worked overseas in Malaysia, she told me about it and I would still to this day, not know about it if I hadn’t spoken to her.

[00:06:28] We didn’t even have, uh, zoom then. It was over. Six years ago, and I was just telling her, her how stressed I was with my life, my parents, blah, blah. And she said, you need to learn TRE®. And she was a um practitioner, a waling practitioner, actually a body worker. And she had learned it. So she taught it to me virtually for, I think I may, did maybe three or four sessions.

[00:06:53] And then once I’d been practicing it enough in my own body, I knew immediately that I had to be certified to teach it and bring it to my practice, and to my friends and to my family. 

[00:07:03] Dr. Adeola Oke: Wow. Okay. I definitely need that because I’m all about stress management, . That’s one of the things I actually talk about in terms of the employee wellness I do, and even personally, right?

[00:07:15] Because I’m a mother of five. Okay. I still Oh, wow. Work full-time. Oh, oh, wow. Okay. I still work full-time and I have my business, which I absolutely love wellness. And I still volunteer. I have a nonprofit, so . Oh, when do you 

[00:07:30] Kathleen Keller: sleep? ? 

[00:07:33] Dr. Adeola Oke: Well, I guess it’s all about mindset, right? And how you feel about it. If it’s like a passion, you do it.

[00:07:39] It’s not work. Right? You’re enjoying it. Yes. So, I need, I need to learn some TRE®. So what is TRE®? 

[00:07:47] Kathleen Keller: So, TRE® is basically a down regulation of our central nervous system. So we work with a very specific nerve in your body that’s called the polyvagal nerve, and that is the nerve that basically governs your excitement levels, your autonomic nervous system, things that you can’t control.

[00:08:07] So it automates that and we work specifically. The nerve branch, one of those nerve branches in that branch to basically discharge tension from your nervous system where it gets trapped. Okay, 

[00:08:21] Dr. Adeola Oke: so you said, you said that the TRE® focuses on nerves that control the autonomic nervous system. What does the autonomic nervous system controlling our body that we 

[00:08:31] Kathleen Keller: don’t know?

[00:08:32] Everything that you can’t control. Your heart rate, your respiration, your digestion, all the automatic things that you can’t do. That’s what it does. But we have figured TRE has a way to actually help you regulate that system when it is. Wow. And it’s, and it’s so, it’s a down regulation of your central nervous system.

[00:08:52] You can learn how to discharge stress from your nervous system through something called neurogenic tremoring. Okay? And anybody can learn how to do this. Most people only need three to five hours to learn it. You can actually learn it in one session, but most people need a couple more sessions just to learn the process of we call regulation, so that you know, Process the, the process and how to, um, be safe in the practice.

[00:09:21] Okay. 

[00:09:21] Dr. Adeola Oke: Wow. Wow, wow. So can you share with us three benefits of TRE®? 

[00:09:27] Kathleen Keller: Oh my goodness. There’s 300 benefits of TRE®. Uh, the biggest one is general stress, anxiety reduction, uh, if you have panic attacks. We all know that stress is one of the biggest things that. Pretty much all of our bodily system when we’re underneath stress.

[00:09:45] So it really is for everybody because everybody has l, you know, big teeth traumas going on, and little tea traumas going on all the time. And this is a way to self-manage that. And it’s a technique that you can learn to do anywhere, any, anytime, any place. You don’t need any special equipment to do it at all.

[00:10:05] Dr. Adeola Oke: Okay, so what I heard is that, um, TRE® can help with stress, can help with anxiety, it can help with panic attacks, and it can help with trauma. So is it mostly mental health related? Um, things that TE helps with or does he help like other Physiological Oh, help, 

[00:10:24] Kathleen Keller: helps many other things. Um, it can help low back pain because one of the main muscles that we’re releasing when we do TRE® is, uh, the SOAs muscle, which is a main muscle that stabilizes the lower back and a lot of.

[00:10:37] People hold a great deal of tension in their lower back and they end up with chronic low back pain. And it can really help that, it can help, uh, overall flexibility because it’s, it’s a tremoring of the whole organism. All your muscles, all your my fascia tremors. So after you do it, everything just feels softer and looser.

[00:10:57] So it can increase flexibility, uh, can help with headaches, uh, migraine. Um, I’m teaching quite a few first responders right now. It can help with P T S D with hypervigilance. Whoa, whoa. That’s because they can down-regulate their central nervous system before they come home, so that they come home more grounded to their families.

[00:11:19] Dr. Adeola Oke: Wow. Wow, wow. Okay. Okay, 

[00:11:23] Kathleen Keller: so I should pro, I should probably tell you kind of how you do it. You wanna know a little bit about how you do it? 

[00:11:28] Dr. Adeola Oke: Well, well, I wanna know because, okay, so this, I’m very, you know the science, right? Yes. We talk about stress and stress effect on the body. So can we go from that approach, right?

[00:11:40] I wanna really know how does he help with stress? What is stress doing to the body first and foremost? That’s this down reregulation. When we say downregulation, not everybody may know that, but right. That this dampening of the, of this nerves, what it does it, what does it then do to it? So first of all, what does, what is stress doing to our body?

[00:12:00] Let’s 

[00:12:00] Kathleen Keller: start with that. So, so our body remembers every single accident, injury, surgery, minor, fall, major accident. Doesn’t matter what you’ve ever had, your body. Remembers that on some level and can actually get trapped. in your tissue, in your connective tissue, in your mild fascia, in your muscles, and it can still be held in what we called bound activation.

[00:12:26] So that’s like the bodily memory, the residue of a traumatic event, or a s you know, a terrible, um, uh, surgery that you had can get held in your nervous system and not become stress. That’s just building up, building up over time. This is a way to release that tension, and then that just basically the whole body relaxes.

[00:12:48] It’s like a pressure valve being release. 

[00:12:50] Dr. Adeola Oke: Okay. I also like to think about it like, you know, when we are stressed, you know, like when a, um, a lion is chasing you, , that’s good stress. Like your heart rate is increasing, right? Right. You’re breathing really fast. So you talked about the autonomic nervous system, right?

[00:13:05] Mm-hmm. controlling those things. So your heart is beating really fast, your breathing really fast, your body’s like really stressed and tense, trying to like run kind of. and what else? Like your brain blood is flowing everywhere, so your body’s hyper alert. Okay, so that’s what is happening during stress.

[00:13:24] Now we wanna now wanna talk about the TRE®. And how 

[00:13:27] Kathleen Keller: that can help us. Well, I was just gonna, yeah, thank you. But what I was gonna add to that is when you were at that moment, you’re actually running from the tiger, basically, your rational thinking brain, your neocortex shuts itself off because what’s working is your older brain, your brainstem, and your mammalian brain, those are the brains that are taking over to save you from being eaten by that lion, right?

[00:13:50] Yes. So we’re working at the brains STEM level with these trem. To help people discharge. Okay. 

[00:13:57] Dr. Adeola Oke: Okay. So in reality right now, this day and age, most people are not running from tigers, but our everyday stress mm-hmm. makes our body feel like we are running from a tiger. So we are having, she said the brain is shutting down.

[00:14:11] Your brain is not working like at optimal level. Right. Um, your heart is bitten really fast. You may not. But your body’s feeling it, right? Your your, you are hyper alert. Sometimes you even have trouble sleeping. Alrighty. Now that I’ve said what stress is doing to the body, how can TRE® help us with that?

[00:14:33] Kathleen Keller: Well, basically by releasing that pressure valve, releasing the tension through what we call neurogenic trem. Okay. Okay. Really similar pressure valve. I like that relation, the pressure valve. And it’s something that you can do. And in the beginning it’s through a series of very specific series of exercises that we teach you.

[00:14:54] And these are very basic exercises that you would see like in a gym or in a yoga class. And we perform these exercise in a very specific, Sequence and for a specific amount of time and a specific amount of energy output and breathing and various techniques, but it’s fairly simple technique. Anybody can learn it.

[00:15:15] And then what this technique does at the end of it, Takes about 20 minutes to do the exercises at the end of it, it squeezes up this result from your central nervous system and we discharge the tension and the main muscles that we’re helping to discharge are your two main fight or flight muscles, which is your so As that’s a big low back muscles that stabilize your spine and then also your diap.

[00:15:38] Which is another fight or flight muscle that when you are under high stress intention, that can get very clamped down on as ka as can your, so as cuz somebody surprises you from behind, you don’t stand up and put your arms up, you go down automatically into a fetal curled position if you’re in high trauma and those muscles get chronically stressed.

[00:16:00] So we help release those muscles through the spine and up through the nervous system. 

[00:16:06] Dr. Adeola Oke: Wow. Sounds interesting. Are we able to talk through a process? 

[00:16:12] Kathleen Keller: I can’t really talk through a process because, okay. Uh, as a, as a, as a certified teacher in, um, TRE®, uh, we need to be there to guide people. Uhhuh, it’s, it’s, it’s a very different process and, um, Emotions come up.

[00:16:30] Uh, memories can come up. People are not sure what to do with the way that the body is, is behaving. So people need usually a safe space where they can be held and, um, you can be guided through the process. But having said that, you could go online tonight. The main, um, Website is called trauma prevention.com, and that is the our worldwide organization trauma prevention.com.

[00:16:58] And they have the exercises right up on the front page of their website, and that’s because there’s so many kind of bastardized versions of it floating all over the place on the internet that they decided, let’s just put the exercises. For people to see, and if you did them, you might tremor, you might not, but the goal is, is that we help you know how to control the tremors because we’re looking for tremoring.

[00:17:24] That feels good. It’s this beautiful organic tremoring that goes through your whole spine, and then it emanates out into your arms and in your legs, and it feels good. 

[00:17:34] Dr. Adeola Oke: Okay, so I heard trauma release.com. 

[00:17:38] Kathleen Keller: Uh, it’s called Trauma Prevention. Oh, trauma Pro . Maybe. I said Trauma Release Release, but it’s tra trauma prevention.com.

[00:17:45] Dr. Adeola Oke: Tra trauma prevention.com. Mm-hmm. . And um, like, it’s just like going on YouTube, right? Jimmy? Find you’ll find something and it’ll just like doing Yoga . Yes. You may think you’re doing it right, um, but you may really need a teacher. Okay. Yes. All right. That goes to the next one. Right? So we’ve kind of talked about TRE®, right?

[00:18:07] We’ve talked about how TRE® can help us or all the different benefits of TRE®, especially in this stress laden world we are living in right now. And I kind of talk about all the different things I do. I usually think about mining in terms of mindset resets, right? But this is a wonderful tool to have in my toolbox, right?

[00:18:27] TRE®. When I heard about it, I was like, what is that? I wanna know more. Right. Um, so, um, what is, what do you wanna make sure that people take away from this conversation today? 

[00:18:39] Kathleen Keller: Um, okay. Uh, well, that, that you. Talk. Sometimes people need talk therapy. Sometimes people need all these other types, E M D R.

[00:18:48] There’s all these other techniques that people can do to help if they’re going through tough times with any kind of, you know, bigger traumas. But TRE® will help everybody at any level to discharge garden variety trauma all the way up to the big leagues. And after you’ve been doing it for a couple of weeks, you don’t need the exercises anymore.

[00:19:09] You can just simply lie. And you can go right into neurogenic tremoring. So it is such a beautifully easy technique to do once it’s in your body, because we’ve all, we can, all tremor, we’ve all experienced tremoring. I’m, I’m a little bit nervous today talking to you. Maybe my hand is shaking. Or you go to the gym and you work really hard, maybe your leg is shaking.

[00:19:31] That’s the kind of idea that we’re working with. We have this natural. We’re encoded to be able to tremor. So what we’re doing is just helping to carve a deeper neural pathway in your brain to allow the tremors to come out. And once you can get them to come out, you have a skill for life. And then you don’t need the exercises.

[00:19:51] You can just do it anywhere, any place, anytime. It’s so, easy and you can do it before maybe, um, an event that’s not very fun. Like if you had to go to a funeral mm-hmm. , you could do, you could do it before to help calm you down, or you can do it immediately after something happens to help discharge that.

[00:20:08] Because again, things get trapped if they’re not discharged. 

[00:20:12] Dr. Adeola Oke: Okay. All right. So you said a lot of things and I’m like, this is can be so beneficial to a lot of people. Right. And you said, you, us, um, you usually learn it within three sessions, so time is a big thing. Okay. . , how many minutes does there usually really need it kind of do an exercise?

[00:20:34] Kathleen Keller: Are you talking about the exercises to get the tremoring to happen? Yes. The exercise. Okay. What, well, the, the, this is the whole process. Once you know the process of doing all the exercises, it takes about 20 minutes to do the exercises. Okay. And then we recommend that people tremor for about 15 minutes.

[00:20:54] Okay. So it becomes a 15 minute practice. Okay. And you can even get the benefit in your central nervous system from for five minutes, uh, at the, at the clinic. Sometimes in the past, if I was, you know, I had a particularly, uh, challenging client because sometimes as therapists we take on, uh, our, our, our patients, you know, problems.

[00:21:14] Sometimes we’re humans, sometimes that ha that happens and we need to kind of clear ourselves. So sometimes I would do that just for five minutes. Just so that I can clear, clear that, so I’m more present for, for my next client. Mm-hmm. . But the, the main thing is, is that you’re not gonna need the exercises.

[00:21:30] Most people, after a couple of weeks of practice, you don’t need them. And then really, it’s only 15 minutes. And who does, who can’t find? 15 

[00:21:37] Dr. Adeola Oke: minutes. Okay. All right. I’m just thinking, cause like, you know, people always have excuses, right? Mm-hmm. , so 20 minutes and then maybe 15 minutes eventually. Okay, cool.

[00:21:47] All righty. And I can see like panic attacks. Oh my gosh. If you knew how to do that. Mm-hmm. Medica a lot. A lot of people on mental health medications. Um, it would be so beneficial. I see so many benefits from this. So, You said that you can teach this to people virtually, right? 

[00:22:05] Kathleen Keller: Yes, yes. I’ve been teaching virtually now for, I guess almost coming up four years.

[00:22:10] It feels like 10, but I think it’s four. . 

[00:22:13] Dr. Adeola Oke: All righty. So if people wanted to learn this from you, right? How can they go about doing 

[00:22:20] Kathleen Keller: that? Oh, thank you. They could contact me@kellermethodvitality.com, Keller Method Vitality. Com. Okay. All right. They can email me through there. And I teach groups. Groups and privates.

[00:22:36] Dr. Adeola Oke: You teach groups and private. Awesome. Awesome, awesome. All right. So, um, so you learned it and then you became certified, right? That’s right. Okay. You have to become certified to teach it too. All right, cool. Thank 

[00:22:48] Kathleen Keller: you. Right. Well, thank you. It was a pleasure. 

[00:22:52] Dr. Adeola Oke: I really learned a lot, and I feel that this is such something that can really be very beneficial to the world if only people knew it.

[00:23:01] And that’s the whole purposes of this podcast. So enlighten people, so other modalities of. Management of managing your health and your wellbeing. You don’t need to pop a pill every single time. People get confused and like what? You are a pharmacist. Why ? Why do you keep sharing all this alternative means of healing?

[00:23:22] Because I really believe in them, right? There’s a time and a place for medications, and there’s a time and a place for you to heal before you may need that medication. Right. 

[00:23:33] Kathleen Keller: All right. Oh, very well. 

[00:23:34] Dr. Adeola Oke: Yes, yes. Thank you so much, Kathleen. It was a pleasure. I learned a lot, and I may be taking some TI classes very soon.

[00:23:43] All righty. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Have a wonderful week. I’ll see you in the next episode. Bye-bye. 

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